Lift The Ban – The grassroots campaign to reinstate Pete Rose

 

Lift the Ban, LLC is a grassroots campaign to reinstate Pete Rose.  The organization was started by a small group of people who understand the importance of justice in our society.   

Two of LTB’s founders with Pete Rose

Pete Rose admits he bet on baseball in violation of Major League Rule 21.  However, there is not a single piece of evidence that tends to show that Pete’s gambling affected the outcome of any game.  This is in stark contrast to the infamous “Black Sox” scandal of 1919 when bookies paid off eight players of the Chicago White Sox to throw the World Series.  

Indeed, all of the evidence shows that Pete in fact always bet on his Cincinnati Reds to win.  Pete Rose is one of the great competitors to ever play the game.  It would go against his very nature for him to do anything other than bet on his team to win. 

By all accounts Pete Rose had a gambling problem.  Gambling addiction is now widely-recognized as a treatable mental-health problem characterized by an increasing preoccupation with gambling, a need to bet more money more frequently despite mounting, serious, negative consequences.    

Given this understanding, a lifetime ban of Pete Rose is a great injustice.  He is one of the greatest players in the history of the game.  His gambling conduct, although detrimental to himself, did not alter the outcome of a single game.  The ban needs to be lifted.

56 Thoughts on “Lift The Ban – The grassroots campaign to reinstate Pete Rose

  1. Pete Rose’s behavior had zero affect on the integrity of the game with the exception of him not telling the truth on the matter initially. I can think of many ways the integrity of the game was shaken and still is to this day, example; Ryan Braun, more than Pete Rose did. The new home run king is the most prominent example that comes to mind. Indeed, Pete Rose bet on baseball. Pete Rose, however was not involved in the great collusion scandal that was infamous during the same time period that involved the same commisioner who administered the life time ban on Pete Rose. The baseball heiarchy needs to use some flexibilty in concern to this matter. It is a unique circumstance. Pete Rose finally told the truth after many years. Baseball should finally do the right thing after many more.

    • I agree. Pete should be reinstated. How is it Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens and a long list of others have done more to taint the game than Pete Rose ever did. How would the standings within both the AL and NL have been changed and who would have went to the world series and who was left out of Hall of Fame consideration (ie., Craig Biggio is the latest example) due to juiced states making other accomplishments of good merit made seemingly irrelevant. Roger Maris is one example, argueable so I agree, but Mark McGwire is now a hitting coach for the Cardinals and that is SOOOO WRONG. Pete Rose deserves to be back in baseball. Let these dopers sit out for 25 years and then let them back in.

  2. Dave McAlister on February 9, 2012 at 1:22 am said:

    Growing up as a kid i remember Pete Rose as the player that you wanted to see playing, the player that everyone wanted to say they wanted to be, the player that never cheated the game of excitement come on baseball quit cheating Pete Rose and baseball fans everywhere lift the ban on the man that gace baseball every dad blasted thing he had hes been punished and we have been punished enough its time that it stopped.

    • The Big Red Machine was the team that the 1919 Black Sox threw the Series to. (Bit of History)
      Now, the Baseball HOF is just a bunch of sportswriters who play favorites. screw them — they are just a bunch of college english majors. As for baseball history, everyone who saw Pete cannot forget his hustle to first base on Walks, or the tenacity in which he got on base and played the ballgame. He belongs there for his managerial accomplishments (2nd place every year of his short managing career). How can a bunch of College junkies NOT allow Pete Rose into their plush society. Why hell, steriods back in the 1920-1930 era was beer, and Babe Ruth was seen drinking between games of doubleheaders. What gives?

  3. william hensley on February 9, 2012 at 1:34 am said:

    I also watched Pete growing up! The Big Red Machine is broke! Fix it! Reinstate The Hits King, Charlie Hustle! Let thou who hath commited no sins cast the first stone!! MLB if you have a gambling problem you get banned for life! If you use PED’s we will put your name on the Hall Of Fame ballot! If your friends with the commish we will reinstate you as a owner! An you also will be included! Let Pete Rose #14 in the Hall! Reinstate Rose

  4. I was a kid at the game when Pete broke Stan M’s record (3635 hits). I loved watching him. He inspired thousands and thousands of kids to play ball. I haven’t been watching or caring about baseball for many years. I’m out till Pete is in.

    There are drug users, wife beaters, and other criminals in the hall. What Pete did was wrong – but a lifetime ban is not justice.

  5. Gambling: a Clinical diagnosis of a personality disorder. Look it in the the DSM 5 (what psychological professionals use to diagnose their patients). Also gambling is legal in certain areas in the U.S.

    Taking performance enhancing drugs: also a possibly personality disorder. However it’s illegal in the U.S. to take certain medication without a prescription from a doctor. It also undercuts the very nature of the game. It is cheating.

    Gambling or betting on your team to win: is not cheating the game. Its an unfair bet sure, as Rose had a part in the bet, but that’s not the point.

    Anyone else with me?

    Although I would not be supporting Rose if he ever bet agaisnt the Reds and played to lose, no matter the circumstance.

  6. mustang21 on February 25, 2012 at 4:36 am said:

    Not a big sports fan. Not a big baseball fan. Not a Reds fan. Not a Pete Rose fan. I loved playing sports when I was younger. I loved the competition. the team concept and the values sports instilled. It kept us busy and healthy. We became more well rounded and aware of our limitations. We in a sense became grounded as that grounder sped right past us. Maybe the talent was not there but we worked hard and we put forth the effort. For that we will remember and be remembered.
    Effort is what Pete Rose stood for and the lesson I learned as a child. Remembering is what the Hall of Fame stands for and what the commissioners have forgotten.
    Mistakes are to be forgiven and unjust punishments amended. How many years does forgiveness take or a punishment last?
    A lifetime of effort thrown away, statistics not counted, the love for a game unrequited. When did perfection become the standard by which we live? Who among us has followed all the rules? No harm—No foul!

  7. TOMAS on March 2, 2012 at 6:33 am said:

    What a great website! Lift The Ban Rocks! In one month, this website has grown up so much. Great job by the president, founder, and leader of this campaign, Don. You are the man. And this website is just the beginning fellas. People from all over the country, stand up for what is right, for what is fair. Leave more comments. Tell your friends and family members. We can do it! Let’s make a difference. There have been some great comments posted. I need more. Pete Rose played ball baby!

  8. The worst part of the ban is that it detracts from all the greatness Pete Rose achieved as a player. He was never implicated for betting on the outcome of games before 1987. Banning a known gambler from managing is one thing; banning an all-time great from the Hall of Fame over something that occurred after his playing days is another.

    I’ve come to the conclusion that this is not just about baseball. Pete has some enemies that have worked against his admission to the HOF – including himself. The part of the ban I find the most curious was a provision to let him apply for reinstatement after one year. I think he truly believed that Bart Giamatti was going to let him back in after that point. Unfortunately, any gentleman’s agreement that Pete may have had with the Commish died with him eight days after he VOLUNTARILY agreed to the ineligible list.

    • JeffB on June 11, 2012 at 12:37 am said:

      Pete had a legal team ready to sue MLB & Giamatti, but so trusted and believed in the reinstatement provision, he agreed to the ban and dropped his lawsuit.

      • I think it is a good thing that Pete did not sue MLB. A final order from a Court can be very difficult to overturn. As it is the ban is only an agreement between Pete and MLB and it is freely rescindable at the will of the parties. The ban can be lifted if/when MLB decides that it will no longer honor the agreeement.

  9. karen on March 4, 2012 at 2:29 pm said:

    Let’s get Pete Rose into the HALL OF FAME!
    Great Web site.

  10. Chuck on March 9, 2012 at 10:14 pm said:

    I look at the integrity of the game. From my perspective what Bonds, Giambi, McGwire and other have done are all far worse than any atrocity commited by Pete Rose. Not only are they not banned for life but all are eligible to be in the hall of fame as well as to be able to continue to have a career inside the game. Now thats injustice! Let Pete in and give him his rightful and just day in court.

  11. It is far beyond the time for this ban to be lifted.
    In addition, the ban on Shoeless Joe Jackson
    needs to be lifted. He was cleared by two
    separate grand juries of any part in the
    controversy which existed. Let’s get
    these two bans lifted NOW.

  12. tom metters on April 11, 2012 at 11:47 am said:

    The time to lift the ban is NOW.
    Call Commisoner Bud Selig at his New York office
    and pass this message along.

    • TOMAS on April 16, 2012 at 5:15 am said:

      Nice to see you on here Tom. Build it and they will come. It is a just cause.
      This was a Monumental week for Lift The Ban! I’m going to let Don break the news of the events of this weekend at Washington Nationals ballpark. This movement goes as the people behind it go. Very happy to have you behind it Tom. Now let’s go!

  13. Mark Morris on April 13, 2012 at 3:40 pm said:

    He was never going to ne in the HOF because of his managing the Reds.. He was a great if not the best hitter ever so reward him for his play…………..Please do not cheat the fans because of your own agendas…..

  14. tom metters on May 3, 2012 at 2:18 am said:

    Look at the DVD 4192 and you will be convinced that Pete belongs in the Hall of Fame … end of discussion.

  15. JeffB on June 11, 2012 at 1:20 am said:

    Pete Rose’s name should be reinstated to the ballot for election to the Hall. If the voters still keep him out, so be it. But when he agreed to the ban, there was no provision for keeping his name off the ballot. It was only added after he signed the agreement & just a year before his name would come on the ballot (eligible in 1992) that the “Pete Rose Rule” was added to the eligibility requirements:

    http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1991-02-03/sports/1991034105_1_hall-of-fame-fame-ballot-rules-for-election

    Since that time, we have had dozens upon dozens (hundreds even?) of steroid users make a mockery of the record book and ALL up to this point have at least had their name appear on the HOF ballot.

    Yes, Rose bet on baseball. Yes it was/is the cardinal sin of baseball rules, but now? How can anyone still hang on the notion that gambling on baseball is still deserving of its harshest punishment? To prove a point? Yes, no one since has been accused of gambling, but is that a victory?

    Pete Rose is the only living player banished from the game of baseball, yet thousands have worse to say about the PED users & what they have done to baseball. There has never been an asterisk or any dispute on Pete’s accomplishments, yet the records set by Bonds, Clemens, McGwire etc, continue to generate negative public opinions to this very day.

    In January of 2013, Barry Bonds, Mike Piazza, Roger Clemens, Sammy Sosa, & Craig Biggio will be added to the HOF ballot along with returning vote getters Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, Jeff Bagwell, and other players that have been suspected of using PEDs.

    All I’m asking is to give Rose the same shot at the Hall. Put his name on the ballot. Keep him away from the game (lifetime ban) if you wish, but give him his day in the sun. He’s 71 yrs old for god’s sake

  16. Dan G on June 15, 2012 at 2:42 am said:

    Don’t let injustice happen again like it did with the Chicago Cub’s Ron Santo. Let’s honor Pete for what he did while he is still with us. Besides, EVERYONE deserves a second chance. Don’t screw this one up too!

  17. Steven Wells on June 15, 2012 at 1:13 pm said:

    I am a long time Reds fan and current season ticket holder. Pete was at the game Wednesday 6/13. They showed him up on the jumbo tron. The place went nuts! Pete is a baseball icon like no other since Ruth. I was also at the Reds Game on 9/11/2010 when they honored Pete on the 25th anniversary of the hit to break Cobbs Record. The place was packed chanting Hall of Fame for a good 5 minutes. Sure he broke the rules, and lied. He has done his time, the fans still need Charlie Hustle maybe more now than ever. Lift the ban let him be a part of the game he loved and played like no other before or after. Let the players committee decide if he is HOF worthy. I mean for gods sake Mark McGuire is a hitting coach, is what he done truly not worse than what Rose did?

    • The ban is ridiculous. The fact that Mark McGuire, a person who artificially inflated his numbers and thus cheated the game and all the players who came before him, is permitted to coach a MLB team but Pete Rose, who broke a rule but who always bet on his team to win, cannot even so much as throw out the first pitch at any ballgame is a disgrace to American sports. MLB should do the right thing and rescind its agreement with Pete that created the lifetime ban. All MLB has to do is say that it will no longer honor that agreement. It is not as if the ban is a law of physics.

  18. Lift The Ban is a just cause. The tremendous amount of support from all the fans who have been in touch reinforce my judgement. Thank you to all of you. Keep up the good work to those who do what they do. You know who you are. Outstanding!

  19. Like and join the page to help lift the BAN!!

  20. Aimee on July 16, 2012 at 4:01 am said:

    reinstate PETE ROSE Please and thank you!!!!!!!!!!!

  21. Tom Metters on August 4, 2012 at 6:09 pm said:

    I have tried to reach the baseball commisioner three different times on the phone but guess what — he has never been available .. I left my name and telephone number but the call has never been returned.

    • I don’t think Bud Selig is going to take action. He is scheduled to step down in 2014. The ban will be lifted sometime after that if the fans demonstrate they want it.

  22. What Pete Rose did as a manger shouldn’t affect his numbers as a player. He is the all time hits leader, and one of the best players to ever play the game.

    I do understand that he bet on baseball, but that has nothing to do with his career as a player !!!

    • Not only does his betting on baseball have nothing to do with what he did as a player, it had no impact on any game because he always bet on his team to win. Betting on baseball is against the rules; but let’s be clear, betting on yourself to win is not cheating. Pete’s gambling did not affect the integrity of the game. Lift the Ban!

      • anonymous 8/5 2:21pm on August 5, 2013 at 2:32 pm said:

        Yeah, but even betting ‘to win’ is NOT cool….burn out a pitcher’s arm for $10g’s?…pull a guy for a pinch hitter for $10g’s? No…stick with him as a player…and cripes! What are they going to do with B Bonds’ and Rocket Clemens’ stats–erase them? If you’re a baseball fan, you can’t ignore stats untainted by banned substances when you’ve got books of stats WITH guys using ‘roids.

  23. I turned 10 just after the World Series in 1976.

    I saw Charlie Hustle run to first base on a walk to send a signal that he was ready to go. I saw him slide head-first into a base to maximize the chances of avoiding a tag.

    This man epitomized teamwork and dutiful effort, and it makes me angry that he be banned for life. He taught a generation of boys to try hard, and to do their best. Betting on baseball will NEVER erase the positive effect he had on the game and millions of children all across this nation.

    Pete Rose IS the Hall of Fame.

    Thank You Pete Rose for teaching me to try hard and to never quit. No one else ever did that for me.

    Re-instate the best hitter the game EVER saw so he can enjoy what he earned. His punishment is over.

    • “This man epitomized teamwork and dutiful effort . . . He taught a generation of boys to try hard, and to do their best.” This is exactly why we say MLB should be celebrating Charlie Hustle. Pete Rose epitomizes so many of the blue-collar traits that we proudly consider to be American. He earned every hit. He worked hard. He was not naturally gifted like Willie Mays but he did more with his talent than any player ever. He is a unique character in the bible of baseball. Yet he is being erased from our memory because MLB has banished him into obscurity.
      Lift the Ban is a real campaign. If you know other Pete Rose supporters please let them know about Lift the Ban; and please purchase a t-shirt and wear it proudly. We need to spread this movement and the shirts are our best advertisement.

  24. Mr.& Mrs. Orchard on October 4, 2012 at 8:36 pm said:

    We are deeply sadden about the degree to which this punishment was
    executed by MLB to Mr. Pete Rose a Baseball Icon. It really amazes us that there has been more serious infractions such as the use of steriods which seemed to of had a greater impact on MLB and the punishment for these infractions were?????? We feel this has been more of a personel attack on Mr. Pete Rose he must of upset the wrong people or has its turned out the right people who had the power to do such a heinous miscarriage of justice.The punishment way out weighs the so called crime. Life time ban. Wow!! Thank god they wont be greeters at the Pearly Gates! Remember you have to forgive to be forgiven.For the MLB fans everywhere right this wrong He paid his dues for his gambling addicition and so did his family and his baseball family his fans!! You who every you are have committed a much larger crime by the punishment you bestowed on on the MLB This Baseball Icon deserves to be rewarded for a Job well done “very well done “and all the negatives you have done will never ever erase what a wonderful prodigy Pete Rose was and always will be to Major league Baseball . His fan base and his family. We challenge everyone That believes in Mr. Pete Rose to go viral to let him know what he means to Baseball Fans everywhere!! Godbless You Pete Rose and fans everywhere Lets do it. Stand up for Mr. Pete Rose He did the crime and more then payed the time. Standup for this miscarriage of Justice!! Reinstate Pete Rose! go viral lets do it!

    • Pete Rose is a Baseball Icon who deserves to be rewarded for a job well-done. That is exactly right. He has been banished into obsucirty because he bet on his team to win. He broke a rule; and he has been punished. Let’s forgive him and stop keeing him from participating in the game. By keeping Pete out of baseball we are losing moments that might otherwise be worthwhile.

  25. bullit on March 1, 2013 at 2:39 am said:

    i grew up watching pete rose and he was one of the greatest and still is. all there is now is a bunch over payed over medicated cry babies that can get away with anything now a days. bring back pete.

  26. laura on March 6, 2013 at 3:19 pm said:

    This is a great idea I agree lift the ban. People 25 years is enough. He is the greatest hitter to ever play the game. You talk about if bonds and clemens don’t get in then there will be some of the best players missing. The best player is missing time to lift the ban selig

  27. freepete! on March 22, 2013 at 4:06 am said:

    If the way Pete played showed anything, it was that the MLB should want more people betting on their own team. We haven’t seen anything like it since, which is truly a shame. As mentioned, dopers have made such a huge impact on everything from the record books, to who knows how many postseasons, and it is just ridiculous that Charlie Hustle is still banned.

  28. Anonymous on August 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm said:

    Baseball is making a big mistake. HONOR HIS ACHIEVEMENTS UNTAINTED BY SCANDAL…BY STEROIDS…BY GAMBLING.

  29. anonymous 8/5 2:21pm on August 5, 2013 at 2:28 pm said:

    (wanted to add to my post): Baseball could turn this into a ‘teaching’ moment by honoring his achievements in the HOF…then have a plaque adjacent indicating, “Pete Rose was banned from HOF activities due to gambling on baseball games while player-manager of the Cincinnati Reds 19XX-19Xx). ” That puts everything in perspective, honors the man for the greatness he gave to the game, then promotes the rule of law/integrity to satisfy the hardline purists, AND LET’S EVERYONE MAKE UP THEIR OWN MIND. My point: you’ve already got scumbags in the HOF–drunks, womanizers, racists. It’s the HOF, not St Peter’s wish list.

  30. Anonymous on August 5, 2013 at 3:47 pm said:

    Lifting the ban would do more than just make him eligible for enshrinement, it would enable him to participate in baseball activities. As a practical matter, that would be the more significant change upon the ban being lifted: Pete Rose teaching the modern player how to succeed.

  31. anonymous 8/5 2:21pm on August 5, 2013 at 3:48 pm said:

    We need to either have a petition OR ONE DAY outright demonstration to show our support for the man who played the game as it oughta be…a man who–with no particular in-bred talent–epitomized what can be done by sheer work ethic.

  32. Anonymous on August 6, 2013 at 4:16 am said:

    Lift the Ban! If A-Roid can not be banned, then Pete should not be. He had a problem, he should have been given help not a ban for life!

  33. Joe Cast on August 11, 2013 at 12:13 am said:

    Pete should be allowed in the hall of fame. You visit the hall and his name is all over it without being allowed in it. With the juicers, liars and criminals still allowed to play baseball today its a slap in the face that Pete is still banned from baseball. If A-Roid doesn’t get a lifetime ban for liar, breaking the law etc then why does Pete? Baseball is simply disgusting in its treatment of some and not others. It is turning into a sport I am getting tired of because the rules for some are not the same for others. But I guess that is what you get when you have a Commissioner who has no backbone like Selig.

  34. what is wrong with mlb ? pete rose earned his place in mlb history not for gambling but for playing the game he loved without drugs so what he had a gambling problem what should have been done for him was GA NOT TO BE BANNED FOR LIFE YET MLB LET ALL THE DRUGGIES STAY AND LYING ON THEIR RECORDS WHATS NEXT ERASING BABE RUTH’S RECORD FOR OVEREATING? GIVE THIS MAN THE RESPECT THAT HE SO RIGHTFULLY DESERVES STOP TREATING HIM AS IF HIS CAREER DID NOT MATTER

  35. LEONARD CONDI JR on August 18, 2013 at 2:58 am said:

    PIRATE FAN HRE, HAD TO WATCH PETE WHEN HE WAS WITH REDS AND ALL THEIR CHAMPIONSHIPS, THEN WITH PHILLY. HE PLAYED THE GAME THE RIGHT WAY, NO DRUGS LIKE SOME HALL OF FAMERS, AND NOW YOU HAVE THSE GUYS WITH THEIR PDS, BUT THAT IS OK, BASBALL HAS TO GET IT RIGHT. BET ON A BALL GAME AS A MANAGR AND GT BANND FOR LIFE, BUT USE DRUGS COKE, HERION , STEROIDS AND MANY OTHERS AND THEY NOT ONLY GET SECOND BUT THIRD AND FORTH CHANCES. THIS DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE TO FANS. BASEBALL SHOULD LET FANS VOTE TO LIFT THE BAN ON PETE ROSE

  36. I wholeheartedly agree with the purpose of this website: LIFT THE BAN! I grew up watching Pete Rose and the rest of the Big Red Machine play. The team was great but I wonder what it would have been without Pete. He exemplified “give it your all” play and “never stop hustling on the field.” It was truly a joy to watch Pete play.

    I grew up in the same general area in which Pete lived as a Cincinnati Red. My brother worked in a restaurant that had Pete’s name on it. Sure Pete was a “bit rough around the edges” but his chosen profession was baseball. . .based on his achievements in his chosen profession he should be recognized. In his chosen profession that means the MLB Hall of Fame.

    Doesn’t every player “bet” on this own team when he cashes his major league paycheck every month and go out there to play for them? If Pete truly never bet against his own team, then he was demonstrating far more belief in his team’s capabilities than anyone else on the team, except the ownership.

    Pete: we truly appreciate the baseball memories you gave us.
    PUT PETE IN THE MLB HOF!!!!!

  37. Ron & Audrey Morand on September 17, 2013 at 8:26 pm said:

    Please Lift the ban on Pete Rose, this is so ridiculous. He needs to be in the Hall of Fame…

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  40. Pat Slaney on May 11, 2014 at 5:48 pm said:

    Pete should be reinstated and be put in the hall of fame. He has served his time

  41. robert on July 16, 2014 at 11:05 pm said:

    I think it is time to bring Pete Rose back into baseball, he has more than paid his dues for reinstatement. You can look at all the other scandals in modern day baseball, many of them involving drugs, to see what impact they have on young people that follow these players involved in drug abuse and other issues today. The reason baseball overlooked the drug problems was financial, if they banned the players involved in drugs it would have been financially devastating to baseball, therefore the huge problem with drugs is not held to the same standards as was Pete Rose. I quit watching baseball after the ban of Pete Rose and the slap on the hand for the players convicted of drugs. It is time to acknowledge one of the greatest players of all times and bring baseball back to the fore front of sports as the greatest sport of all times.

  42. clay rigdon on July 20, 2014 at 2:13 am said:

    It is time,we all need a second chance,

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